steve mcmahon is a democratic strategist. and rick -- are you a real lower case democrat or and upper case democrat who likes dynasties? because i think hillary's got a special case because we've never had a woman president. that's the wind at her back. and it should be her. >> she's not a dynasty candidate. she is a candidate who's earned it in her own right. she happened to have perhaps gotten a little bit of boost -- in new york -- >> ambassador to great britain or france? >> i'll take either. >> what are you bidding for? >> how about ireland? >> okay. so she's earned it? >> she has earned it. >> okay. couldn't you say the same thing -- i agree with you. couldn't you say the same thing about andrew cuomo who's been a good governor of new york? one of the few popular governors around the country? >> i think you could. >> what's your principle as a republican? you guys are middle class. republicans don't like dynasties. >> i agree with you and barbara bush. it's a meritocracy. if he's got as you say, talent, then they should